Ingrid of the nicer, gentler Slice flames me... Then closes comments.
Oh, this is because I stated:
Chris L.
Just to warn you Jim will go on and on until he feels he wins… so ignore him and he will go away… you know like that other feller we are told to resist and he will flee…
I am more and more convinced that these guys have no clue that they are running more people off… and I think one day they will account for those souls they abused in Jesus’ Name.
I pray that will not happen but I do not see or hear or sense any godly Love from them… only a unhealthy fixation on the wrath of God at the expense of God’s grace.
I did a series on “the Religionist” and all Jim did was assume it was all about him… a bit of Narcissism if you ask me…
So, resist the devil and he will flee… sounds like sound advice from God’s word to me.
Be Blessed,
iggy
And yes Jim I did associate you with the devil… so confess your sin of lack of love for you brothers and turn to the Lord
James 2:12-13 (now that is not oldtruth… but living truth!)
Note I "associated" Jim with the devil... I did not call him The Devil as Ingrid states it. Jesus rebuked Peter, who Jesus stated, "Get behind me Satan." yet I do not think Peter turned into "The Satan" but was being used of Satan... The verse in James 2:12-13 I used was the rebuke to not judge others as Ingrid and Jim have been doing... I am stating we need stand against those who are being used by Satan to cause division.
Here is the verse:
12Speak and act as those who are going to be judged by the law that gives freedom, 13because judgment without mercy will be shown to anyone who has not been merciful. Mercy triumphs over judgment!
Note that I am also using a biblical principle in that James also teaches:
James 4:4- 12
You adulterous people, don't you know that friendship with the world is hatred toward God? Anyone who chooses to be a friend of the world becomes an enemy of God. Or do you think Scripture says without reason that the spirit he caused to live in us envies intensely?But he gives us more grace. That is why Scripture says: "God opposes the proud but gives grace to the humble."
Submit yourselves, then, to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you. Come near to God and he will come near to you. Wash your hands, you sinners, and purify your hearts, you double-minded. Grieve, mourn and wail. Change your laughter to mourning and your joy to gloom. Humble yourselves before the Lord, and he will lift you up.
Brothers, do not slander one another. Anyone who speaks against his brother or judges him speaks against the law and judges it. When you judge the law, you are not keeping it, but sitting in judgment on it. There is only one Lawgiver and Judge, the one who is able to save and destroy. But you—who are you to judge your neighbor?
Now I think many of the watchdoggie blogs have slandered and judges others by the Law and miss that we are to judge others by the Law that gives freedom.
There are some things to note as you read the comments and Ingrid's interpretation...
1. Though she quotes me she distorts what I said to mean I called Jim "The Devil" and I did not... I am stating that we are to resist those that use this worlds tools like slander and lies that cause division.
2. Ingrid gets her last word in... "Thanks, Iggy, for making our point." and then promptly closed comments... it gives me no room for restoration or reconciliation... I am judged, condemned and then tossed aside.
3. In the very comments "Faye" states: “They really are clueless about their eternal state.” in which Ingrid never rebukes her for her statement... in fact a CRN.info person calls her on that statement and she admits she went too far... but not a word from Ingrid.
4. I might also point out that I am only a commenter on that site and Ingrid has elevated me as a writer… She does call me a "commenter" yet, I wonder if her own commenter’s should also be held to the same standard as she held me. Here are a few comments just from that post.
Faye:
They really are clueless about their eternal state.
(Faye does say she went too far.)
Faye:
Haven’t they ever heard of the Holy Spirit and that He will teach us and help us to recall the Truths of scripture when it is needed?
Dave:
Right, those who say that the Bible cannot be understood almost always use that as a “get out of jail free” card. What a faithless statement.
Ingrid:
For them to suggest that they are demonstrating Christian love and tolerance is laughable, and it’s about time someone publicly exposed it.
Ingrid:
These are people who demand respect for themselves that they refuse to afford others, while at the same time wrapping themselves in a cloak of “tolerance and love.” It just ain’t so.
Dave:
If they hate you remember that they hated our Lord first. To be persecuted is not noteworthy. To be persecuted for the truth is of great worth. Well done.
Faye:
They are so self- deceived and self-righteous and are like the pharisee who prayed to himself, thanking God that he is not like others especially that tax collector, who went home righteous after his humility and brokeness and cry for God’s mercy.
Jim Bublitz:
Truth be told, you and Rick share the usual list of common foes.
(BTW most of those “foes” were his friends… like Ingrid who now berate him… funny now Rick writes for this site as he is no longer accepted by Ken and Ingrid)
Ingrid:
My advice is for these gentlemen to admit that what they are doing is pharisaical and to stop their claims of moral and spiritual superiority.
Ingrid:
Imagine that. “Iggy” always has the flamethrowers at the ready to take down those he disagrees with, even going so far as to liken them to the devil himself, in Christian love, of course.
Ingrid:
Thanks, Iggy, for making our point.
Thanks Ingrid for making mine so easily as it seems that you all me to accountability yet do not do so with you own commenters.
I think Phil at CRN.info wraps this up nicely:
"It responses like these on Ingrid’s part that make me think it all a big parody. I mean, how can she with a straight face say something like, “My advice is for these gentlemen to admit that what they are doing is pharisaical and to stop their claims of moral and spiritual superiority” and call other “flamethrowers”? I know I shouldn’t be surprised, but it really unbelievable to me.
If someone asked me for a definition of irony, I would point them to that thread on her site."
Be Blessed,
iggy
Oh, this is because I stated:
Chris L.
Just to warn you Jim will go on and on until he feels he wins… so ignore him and he will go away… you know like that other feller we are told to resist and he will flee…
I am more and more convinced that these guys have no clue that they are running more people off… and I think one day they will account for those souls they abused in Jesus’ Name.
I pray that will not happen but I do not see or hear or sense any godly Love from them… only a unhealthy fixation on the wrath of God at the expense of God’s grace.
I did a series on “the Religionist” and all Jim did was assume it was all about him… a bit of Narcissism if you ask me…
So, resist the devil and he will flee… sounds like sound advice from God’s word to me.
Be Blessed,
iggy
And yes Jim I did associate you with the devil… so confess your sin of lack of love for you brothers and turn to the Lord
James 2:12-13 (now that is not oldtruth… but living truth!)
Note I "associated" Jim with the devil... I did not call him The Devil as Ingrid states it. Jesus rebuked Peter, who Jesus stated, "Get behind me Satan." yet I do not think Peter turned into "The Satan" but was being used of Satan... The verse in James 2:12-13 I used was the rebuke to not judge others as Ingrid and Jim have been doing... I am stating we need stand against those who are being used by Satan to cause division.
Here is the verse:
12Speak and act as those who are going to be judged by the law that gives freedom, 13because judgment without mercy will be shown to anyone who has not been merciful. Mercy triumphs over judgment!
Note that I am also using a biblical principle in that James also teaches:
James 4:4- 12
You adulterous people, don't you know that friendship with the world is hatred toward God? Anyone who chooses to be a friend of the world becomes an enemy of God. Or do you think Scripture says without reason that the spirit he caused to live in us envies intensely?But he gives us more grace. That is why Scripture says: "God opposes the proud but gives grace to the humble."
Submit yourselves, then, to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you. Come near to God and he will come near to you. Wash your hands, you sinners, and purify your hearts, you double-minded. Grieve, mourn and wail. Change your laughter to mourning and your joy to gloom. Humble yourselves before the Lord, and he will lift you up.
Brothers, do not slander one another. Anyone who speaks against his brother or judges him speaks against the law and judges it. When you judge the law, you are not keeping it, but sitting in judgment on it. There is only one Lawgiver and Judge, the one who is able to save and destroy. But you—who are you to judge your neighbor?
Now I think many of the watchdoggie blogs have slandered and judges others by the Law and miss that we are to judge others by the Law that gives freedom.
There are some things to note as you read the comments and Ingrid's interpretation...
1. Though she quotes me she distorts what I said to mean I called Jim "The Devil" and I did not... I am stating that we are to resist those that use this worlds tools like slander and lies that cause division.
2. Ingrid gets her last word in... "Thanks, Iggy, for making our point." and then promptly closed comments... it gives me no room for restoration or reconciliation... I am judged, condemned and then tossed aside.
3. In the very comments "Faye" states: “They really are clueless about their eternal state.” in which Ingrid never rebukes her for her statement... in fact a CRN.info person calls her on that statement and she admits she went too far... but not a word from Ingrid.
4. I might also point out that I am only a commenter on that site and Ingrid has elevated me as a writer… She does call me a "commenter" yet, I wonder if her own commenter’s should also be held to the same standard as she held me. Here are a few comments just from that post.
Faye:
They really are clueless about their eternal state.
(Faye does say she went too far.)
Faye:
Haven’t they ever heard of the Holy Spirit and that He will teach us and help us to recall the Truths of scripture when it is needed?
Dave:
Right, those who say that the Bible cannot be understood almost always use that as a “get out of jail free” card. What a faithless statement.
Ingrid:
For them to suggest that they are demonstrating Christian love and tolerance is laughable, and it’s about time someone publicly exposed it.
Ingrid:
These are people who demand respect for themselves that they refuse to afford others, while at the same time wrapping themselves in a cloak of “tolerance and love.” It just ain’t so.
Dave:
If they hate you remember that they hated our Lord first. To be persecuted is not noteworthy. To be persecuted for the truth is of great worth. Well done.
Faye:
They are so self- deceived and self-righteous and are like the pharisee who prayed to himself, thanking God that he is not like others especially that tax collector, who went home righteous after his humility and brokeness and cry for God’s mercy.
Jim Bublitz:
Truth be told, you and Rick share the usual list of common foes.
(BTW most of those “foes” were his friends… like Ingrid who now berate him… funny now Rick writes for this site as he is no longer accepted by Ken and Ingrid)
Ingrid:
My advice is for these gentlemen to admit that what they are doing is pharisaical and to stop their claims of moral and spiritual superiority.
Ingrid:
Imagine that. “Iggy” always has the flamethrowers at the ready to take down those he disagrees with, even going so far as to liken them to the devil himself, in Christian love, of course.
Ingrid:
Thanks, Iggy, for making our point.
Thanks Ingrid for making mine so easily as it seems that you all me to accountability yet do not do so with you own commenters.
I think Phil at CRN.info wraps this up nicely:
"It responses like these on Ingrid’s part that make me think it all a big parody. I mean, how can she with a straight face say something like, “My advice is for these gentlemen to admit that what they are doing is pharisaical and to stop their claims of moral and spiritual superiority” and call other “flamethrowers”? I know I shouldn’t be surprised, but it really unbelievable to me.
If someone asked me for a definition of irony, I would point them to that thread on her site."
Be Blessed,
iggy
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