Saturday, January 26, 2008

Stick it where? Ask Chris Pajak!


Chris Pajak as a real knack with words... he loves to tell others how sinful they are and how "emergents" are going to hell amongst the "nicer" things he states... He also writes for Christian Research Net for Ken Silva.


And in a recent "loving" comment on the topic of reductionism at CRN.info Chris Pajak had this to say!



"At the risk of sounding crudely reductionist; put it where the sun don’t shine. This blog is going to criticize others for sweeping generalizations? I pray for the soon return of the King." ~ Chris Pajak Christian Research Network contributor.




No Chris, you just sound as crude as all those you condemn for not being Christ like...


If you would like to tell Chris how offensive this is... his blog is here...


These are the new holiness police...


Beware!

iggy

9 comments:

andy said...

CRN and CRN.Info are starting to come across like two bold men arguing over a comb...

"you said this,well you said that"

Mannn its cringe worthy and pointless.Its obvious that threads and post,are more about scoring points,then anything constructive.

Ive been argumentative myself,but its just become so unhealthy that i'm walking away from it..

approvedworkman said...

iggy
you are so funny (looking).
First of all if you want to comment on what I wrote at crn.falseinfo then comment there instead of leaving a comment on a post at my blog which has nothing to do with what you are whining about.
Second please post my entire comment instead of the select portion that you apparently think makes me look bad.

Third it is quite obvious that the place where the sun doesn't shine for you, is the abyss between your ears.

What I said is far from the worst I have read at crn.misinfo.

Finally, you are as much a liar as the rest over there.

Your false statement here:
" he loves to tell others how sinful they are and how "emergents" are going to hell amongst the "nicer" things he states..."
is amusing.

I dare you to find anywhere on the net where I have made these statements.

iggy said...

Welcome Chris,

Chris: you are so funny (looking).

iggy: Hmmm personal insult right off…

Chris: First of all if you want to comment on what I wrote at crn.falseinfo then comment there instead of leaving a comment on a post at my blog which has nothing to do with what you are whining about.

iggy: Oh I leave plenty comments there and even on that thread I did comment… and as far as you post on your blog I commented on… ironically was about double standards… and this is one that you hold… you will say the nastiest things to people and act all holy about it… it was not off topic on your own blog! LOL!


Chris: Second please post my entire comment instead of the select portion that you apparently think makes me look bad.

iggy: I posted the part that made yourself look bad, I have nothing to do with how bad you make yourself look or even behave. In fact I have links that allow people to go see the really mean post that would warrant a guy that calls others to a higher standard as you do, to tell others to place something in such a place as you stated.

Chris: Third it is quite obvious that the place where the sun doesn't shine for you, is the abyss between your ears.

iggy: Again, instead of thinking you insult me… and further show your character…

Chris: What I said is far from the worst I have read at crn.misinfo.

iggy: Yes, I agree I have read some of your other comments where you use hell (not biblically) and damn and call people stupid and even the time you told me to shut up… so yes there are worst things there…

Chris: Finally, you are as much a liar as the rest over there.

iggy: accusations but no proof of where I lied… back up your claims…

Chris: Your false statement here:
" he loves to tell others how sinful they are and how "emergents" are going to hell amongst the "nicer" things he states..."is amusing.

iggy: Amusing? I find it sad… I find your insults and such as childish and uncalled for.

Chris: I dare you to find anywhere on the net where I have made these statements.

iggy: DO you really want me to? I could! I won’t though because I had hoped this post would have embarrassed you enough… I guess it didn’t…

I do have a number of things you have stated on tap… I really don’t want to waste more space with your anti “postmodern” drivel that you confuse as being emerging or emergent.

I think you are pretty clear that you think we of the emerging church are on our way to hell... as you do also the RCC...

So don't misplace the truth about what you believe and have stated... LOL!

iggy

btw I still recommend you looking into anger management courses... it would help with that issue.

approvedworkman said...

iggy

your comments here and this one you left me at.info,

"You have become and shallow shadow of a real man… let alone a man of God… I wonder if you are becoming like the god you serve… angry and bitter… thank God I know the fuller counsel of God’s word as I would gladly become an atheist if it was all as you believe."

This shows signs of mental illness or worse.
I am being kind here.
This comment leads me to believe that you havbe the maturity of maybe a three year old.

.info is a blog that has repeatedly supported men who use four letter words in the pulpit (which I did not do btw)
You, and they, have also repeatedly mocked Ingrid, Ken, or whomever who take offense at the profane and vile language of such men. Therefore you are more than hypocrites. You are deliberataly
concocting false witness.
My comment nowehere near approaches what you and the "movement" you support have said or done.

The only embarrassment is you.
I am sure when you post my alleged hateful comments, they will be out of context and will contain your extrapolated blatherings.
Under total depravity in Webster's they should put your picture.

approvedworkman said...

Hey thanks for the shoutout on my RCC blog and posts.
The rcc is not the church and never was. The posts you linked to offer solid scriptural refutation of their syncretistic theology.
I am a former roman catholic and seminarian/altar boy so I know whereof I speak.

How those posts prove your spurious accusations are beyond me.

One more thought, I don't "act holy"
Holiness, like all things from God, is imputed, it doesn't come from men, or the semi-pelagian drivel you preach.

Your sad comments are evidence that you believe yourself to be far "holier" than all others.
I am only hard on those who shoot off their mouths in blogdom and/or in a pulpit. If you claim to be a leader, and claim to teach, then you had better be prepared to defend yourself.

As I said to many before; You don't know me or what I do and the people I serve would laugh in your face at the things you have accused me of.

iggy said...

Chris P,

You comment only show more of what I stated...

I gave the context and you still insist I did not...

Actually as I re-read our 'discussions' with each other in the past I was amazed at how many times we agreed yet you still argued with me!!!!

I also will note I have not defended foul language and have stated to others to not use foul language... yet what I have defended was that using foul language has nothing to do with one's salvation... so as you pointed out, Ingrid, Ken and yourself like to point at others and judge them, yet add to the Gospel works such as "no foul language" to me that is another gospel of works and we both know what Paul says about that~! LOL!

You stated:

"One more thought, I don't "act holy"
Holiness, like all things from God, is imputed, it doesn't come from men, or the semi-pelagian drivel you preach."

I agree with you again except for the lie in what I "preach" which only shows that you have never taking the time to listen and hear and they to understand what I DO preach... in fact you being from the AoG have more semi-pelagian teachings in your own denomination... I teach Grace... salvation by Grace through faith.

So, the one lying here again is....

You!

This is really sad as the more you talk the more angry you sound and the more lies you add up!

Before you state things like "you are semi-pelagian" you better know what that means and then double check if that person really is that! LOL!

iggy

iggy said...

Chris P,


"This shows signs of mental illness or worse.
I am being kind here.
This comment leads me to believe that you havbe the maturity of maybe a three year old."


LOL!

It seems that when you guys cannot prove someone wrong you resort to the insanity accusations... well I am not... but I think you are a bit delusional yourself as you miss that you resort to acting like a child and must call me names! Talk about a lack of maturity! LOL!

Go and grow up a bit if you cannot admit you are just a mean person who likes to attack others and call them names while spreading rumors and lies about them.. Now there is a psychological sickness that has a name for that... it is psychotic...

Get help with your anger Chris, it is eating you alive. Jesus can help you overcome it...

iggy

JP said...

Gentlemen,

Let me be honest with you guys. I am a non-believer who has struggled for years with the faith. I badly, oh so badly, want to embrace what I once had. To see you guys arguing like this and throwing personal insults back and forth surely does not help the christian cause, How can one see the good news through this fog? I am not coming down on either of you two, but you guys share and are apart of the same mission. For the sake of me, christians on the edge of non-belief and other struggling, you must drop the pettiness. You guys, I am sure, have more in common then you think. To an outsider, who knows little of the christian faith, your issues over calvinism or the emerging church means nothing. I am sure you would agree, there is more important work to be done.

iggy said...

JP,

This little tiff is about someone who likes to slander others in the Name of Jesus...

Sadly, I agree, we do have much in common and in the past, I tried to point that out, yet it seems that since I am so labeled then I am not saved.

Chris P seems to not care if his words hurt others... and is very careless in how he treats others... he sets a standard on others that he does not even keep...his further accusations that I am lying seems a bit out of touch with reality as I have linked to the article itself that all can see... I am not twisting his words as they are twisted enough.

Now I do apologize that you are having to witness this "in house" rebuke, but that is what it is... a rebuke.

I have tried to distance myself from people like this but do have lapses at times... LOL!


BTW, this is one of the "fundies" that I deal with on a pretty regular basis... and I do tend to desire to defend those, these type of people hurt... I have a hard time standing back and hearing them lie about others and doing nothing.

Again, sorry if it hurts you to see it as it hurts me to attempt to rebuke someone who has no humility to see their error and only see someone else’s. John MacArthur declared a "Truth war" and with any war, there are innocent harmed... I am one and you are one also. I am standing against those who claim God must be defended and truth must be defended and think that they do this as mere men... instead of the truth that God is our defender and Truth defends us.


iggy