Wednesday, September 02, 2009

Peter Rollins denies the Resurrection!


Peter Rollins finally admitted what all his critics state... sort of:

Here is an excerpt:

"I am four days into my ‘Lessons’ tour and so far loving it. My time to date has been spent in Calvin College engaging in fascinating debates with Kevin Corcoran, Jason Clark, Jamie Smith, Lori Wilson and Michael Wittmer. Many subjects have been covered, but perhaps the most pertinent one revolved around the place and nature of belief in faith.

At one point in the proceedings someone asked if my theoretical position led me to denying the Resurrection of Christ. This question allowed me the opportunity to communicate clearly and concisely my thoughts on the subject, which I repeat here.

Without equivocation or hesitation I fully and completely admit that I deny the resurrection of Christ. This is something that anyone who knows me could tell you, and I am not afraid to say it publicly, no matter what some people may think… "

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6 comments:

rick said...

I'd be careful with Rollins. While I appreciate the what he wrote in the referenced post, his other writings go further than that. Wittmer (I think correctly) notes, "Rollins rightly emphasizes that God is the wholly other Subject who transcends the limits of our minds. But rather than balance God’s transcendence with an equal appreciation for his immanence, Rollins allows God’s transcendent mystery to overwhelm the immanence of his revelation."

See this post for more.

iggy said...

I actually have enjoyed much of his writing as they do capture the "mystery" of God. In a world were some write that a real Christian MUST be certain about all they believe I see someone who embraces the mysteries of God as refreshing. Sadly I see those who see that we must be certain miss out on the mysteries of God... and misrepresent God as knowable by man's logic as if man's logic was sovereign over God.

Now, personally I am careful with any man's teachings... even my favorite teachers I have things I disagree with. There are things that John Wimber states that I raise an eyebrow to on occasion... so I see that being careful in general is great advise. But we should not just write off those who may be speaking in the prophetic gifts... but realize with God any gift is glorious an dangerous to a degree.

iggy said...

After reading the post you linked to I think that the one obsessed with porn is the guy who wrote the post.

I see that Rollins to a degree is showing that man is not sovereign as I stated. God is beyond comprehension so in that lay the uncertainties Rollins speaks of.

Also, I think that those that write such things miss that Rollins affirms the certainties they are concerned about. It is a balance of doubt mixed with fear of the unknown mix with certainty that "something" happened to us, "something" lives in us... this "thing" I can't fully express... and at times wonder if it is just my imagination or God. Yet, in spite of that fear and uncertainty I still have faith in this unknown God who is making Himself known to me and yet I believe I will never know or understand fully... and in that I am still content with Who He is and trust Him.

rick said...

I perceived Wittmer was trying be clever. That aside, as I've read only a little Rollins, I may be off but he doesn't strike me as one trying attain the balance that you (and Wittmer) are speaking to. Rollins writes as one trying to swing the pendulum but has gone to far into the opposite error. My opinion.

Do you know for me where Rollins strikes some balance speaking of a knowable God and specifically the Father that can only be known rightly through Christ? I'd be interested in reading that. I've missed it and perhaps my bias has caused me to overly question him.

methusaleh said...

The problem is that Rollins is not a Biblical person and is much more influenced with postmodern philosophy than Scripture- looking to Derrida etc for his inspiration.
While some of his critique may be correct-we can all see these faults in the evangelical church he then goes out to throw the Bible out as well.

iggy said...

methusaleh,

I personally have not read that much of Rollins to make any comment about what you stated. Yet, I have read many critics of the emerging conversation who toss out accusations without backing to not take what you are saying that seriously. So... unless you have proof of this, such as a link where he denies the bible as important or a direct quote stating "toss out the bible", there is no way I will entertain what is really nothing more than gossip in your comments. I am not trying to be mean about this, but I hold your comment even more in suspect as your profile is not even engaged for anyone to see who you are. So as far as I know you are Pastorboy someone like him who likes to do drive-by comments without backing the when the damage is done, go your merry little way without any thought that you may be harming someone with rumors or lies.