Sunday, May 22, 2005
Thursday, May 19, 2005
Is Reposting like Regifting... or What if you find Hilter in Heaven
Sometimes like a left over dinner my posts are better in the comments than when I try to write something of substance........
I have thought of that. "what if Hitler made it to heaven?" or whoever you think is the most evil...Then one must accept that God's grace is all encompassing it would include these men if they turned to Jesus at the last moment.
Yet, I have an issue with this question...
It has an assumption that these men turned to Jesus before they died.... In that I believe they are saved.
Yet, if the question is that these men by their own merits that is an issue altogether as we enter Heaven on Jesus' merits. Now, God changing His mind....
If He let all the ones that were against Him, I would say, in a way He has...
By us accepting His Son.
In the apocalypse of Peter.... Peter is taking a tour through Hell with Jesus... at one point, Jesus points out all the people in hell and how they are being punished... Kind of a Dante's Inferno thing going on...Jesus turns to Peter and as if winking and says, This is only for a time as these are being purified for Heaven.
Now, I don't buy that, but if God did change His mind I still think there will be some Hell to pay.
To imagine a Hilter or some other person given over to evil, being able to accept the forgiveness is another leap for me. As their very character is bent on the destruction and doing the evil to others... To be their own god.
I view heaven as Pure Goodness... Only to be entered through and in Jesus.... If one is to enter on their own merit they will find themselves wanting.
God has invited all the Hitlers of history into heaven... I guess I doubt the ability for these Hitlers to cross over to Heaven even if forgiven and given yet one last time.
Hope that makes sense.
blessings,
iggy
I have thought of that. "what if Hitler made it to heaven?" or whoever you think is the most evil...Then one must accept that God's grace is all encompassing it would include these men if they turned to Jesus at the last moment.
Yet, I have an issue with this question...
It has an assumption that these men turned to Jesus before they died.... In that I believe they are saved.
Yet, if the question is that these men by their own merits that is an issue altogether as we enter Heaven on Jesus' merits. Now, God changing His mind....
If He let all the ones that were against Him, I would say, in a way He has...
By us accepting His Son.
In the apocalypse of Peter.... Peter is taking a tour through Hell with Jesus... at one point, Jesus points out all the people in hell and how they are being punished... Kind of a Dante's Inferno thing going on...Jesus turns to Peter and as if winking and says, This is only for a time as these are being purified for Heaven.
Now, I don't buy that, but if God did change His mind I still think there will be some Hell to pay.
To imagine a Hilter or some other person given over to evil, being able to accept the forgiveness is another leap for me. As their very character is bent on the destruction and doing the evil to others... To be their own god.
I view heaven as Pure Goodness... Only to be entered through and in Jesus.... If one is to enter on their own merit they will find themselves wanting.
God has invited all the Hitlers of history into heaven... I guess I doubt the ability for these Hitlers to cross over to Heaven even if forgiven and given yet one last time.
Hope that makes sense.
blessings,
iggy
Friday, May 13, 2005
A bad hair cut in the post modern age
I found post modernism hard to define from the outside. Most moderns miss the subtle
shift of thought we like to call the paradigm shift.
I was/am still painfully aware of my modern tendencies and at first felt awkward even trying to change my way of thinking. I think the most common mistake a modern makes is labeling PM as
a movement, like the great “revivals” of old yet with a more hideous dark side they fear.
I ran across a painful example of how blind and off the mark the modern church was as I was getting a hair cut one day. A young lady around 19 or 20 was cutting my hair and I asked her if she had a belief in God. She said she never really had thought of it… I then asked her if she ever went to church…. She said, “it is not relevant in my life right now”. WOW! What a statement!
I continued to talk with her… at first she seemed a bit cautious as if she thought I had another motive. I did… but not to get her to church, but to find out, if there was a church that she would attend how would it have to be, to be relevant. She began warming up… and as I got to the crucial info, the older lady cutting hair nest door piped in, “I’m with the so and so church, and I have been after this little girl to go to my church for a long time”.
The reason she did not attend a church became obvious as this other lady talked and talked about her church…. And how “relevant” it was.
The conversation with the young woman was over, she clammed up tight and finished cutting my hair.
Moderns seem to miss that the age of modernism has ended and we are changing. Post modernism is in the middle of discovering it self and we must as the Body of Christ seek to
find ways to bring Christ to these people of this age. Moderns forget that they too have had and have a hideous side to them…. We PM people can smell it a mile away. Like the story of the the "Gospel" being brought to the American Indians and the destruction of their culture. One thing we PM'ers know is what is foney, we are beyond Mr. Pompeil.
I am Emerging…. Not as a movement or phase I am going through, but as a change of the core of my being as I grow to understand the need of this people for the purity of the Gospel and not the games of modernism. Do they all think alike, no but the core is as this article states, they are being brought up taught humanist secularism and relativism, which sadly is a result of modernism.
No God, no truth, no relation, no wonder and awe.
Blessings,
iggy
shift of thought we like to call the paradigm shift.
I was/am still painfully aware of my modern tendencies and at first felt awkward even trying to change my way of thinking. I think the most common mistake a modern makes is labeling PM as
a movement, like the great “revivals” of old yet with a more hideous dark side they fear.
I ran across a painful example of how blind and off the mark the modern church was as I was getting a hair cut one day. A young lady around 19 or 20 was cutting my hair and I asked her if she had a belief in God. She said she never really had thought of it… I then asked her if she ever went to church…. She said, “it is not relevant in my life right now”. WOW! What a statement!
I continued to talk with her… at first she seemed a bit cautious as if she thought I had another motive. I did… but not to get her to church, but to find out, if there was a church that she would attend how would it have to be, to be relevant. She began warming up… and as I got to the crucial info, the older lady cutting hair nest door piped in, “I’m with the so and so church, and I have been after this little girl to go to my church for a long time”.
The reason she did not attend a church became obvious as this other lady talked and talked about her church…. And how “relevant” it was.
The conversation with the young woman was over, she clammed up tight and finished cutting my hair.
Moderns seem to miss that the age of modernism has ended and we are changing. Post modernism is in the middle of discovering it self and we must as the Body of Christ seek to
find ways to bring Christ to these people of this age. Moderns forget that they too have had and have a hideous side to them…. We PM people can smell it a mile away. Like the story of the the "Gospel" being brought to the American Indians and the destruction of their culture. One thing we PM'ers know is what is foney, we are beyond Mr. Pompeil.
I am Emerging…. Not as a movement or phase I am going through, but as a change of the core of my being as I grow to understand the need of this people for the purity of the Gospel and not the games of modernism. Do they all think alike, no but the core is as this article states, they are being brought up taught humanist secularism and relativism, which sadly is a result of modernism.
No God, no truth, no relation, no wonder and awe.
Blessings,
iggy
Wednesday, May 04, 2005
did you hear a collective "oooooppppssss, we may have made a mistake"?
I just read this article concerning the fire fighter in a coma for 10 years... He woke up. His vegetative state was pretty much an echo of Terri Shindler (Schiavo). Supposedly the same brain damage as Terri. This family was able to keep up with their regular therapy and low and behold!
His first words were "I want to talk to my wife."
Now imagine if Terri had this happen to her... "Where is my husband?"
"Oh, huh, he is shacked up with some other woman and has had two kids with her... And basically he wished you to be dead."
Praise God for this loving wife who stood by her man... Heros. Both of them.
Let's pray for his full recovery.
Blessings,
iggy
His first words were "I want to talk to my wife."
Now imagine if Terri had this happen to her... "Where is my husband?"
"Oh, huh, he is shacked up with some other woman and has had two kids with her... And basically he wished you to be dead."
Praise God for this loving wife who stood by her man... Heros. Both of them.
Let's pray for his full recovery.
Blessings,
iggy
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